whatever you want to call this new move of God--and the terms are changing as i type--it doesn't change the fact that God is afoot. i thought i'd compile a list of links instead of trying to write something myself as it has been done by others quite effectively. the quiz is on monday. :)
the skinny on the emerging church by andrew jones aka tallskinnykiwi:
emergant tour intro
emergant 1: emergent vocabulary
emergant 2: countercultural history
emergant 3: postmodern sensibility
emergant 4: new media fluency
these are from scot mcknight at jesus creed:
what is the emerging church? praxis
what is the emerging church? protest
what is the emerging church? postmodernity
5 streams of the emerging church by scot mcknight as published in christianity today that expands on the above three links. if you're really ambitious you can read scot's 30 page paper what is the emerging church?
the emerging 21st century christianity by phyllis tickle who shows that historically the church undergoes massive change every 500 years.
rex miller also looks at historical changes and focuses on the means of communication as an important factor that shapes our world. here is a conversation with rex miller where he talks about concepts in his excellent book the millennium matrix.
4 streams from tom sine of mustard seed associates:
emerging church
missional church
modern monasticism
mosaic church
missional, monastic, emerging: a traveler's guide by len hjalmarson of next reformation at next wave
what is a missional church? from friend of missional
origin of the terms "emerging" & "emergent" church pt 1 by dan kimball
origin of the terms "emerging" & "emergent" church pt 2 by dan kimball
publishers weekly: what do publishers mean by "emergent"? 3.12.08
publishers weekly: emergent and beyond 9.01.08 on publishing houses dropping the category "emergent"
emerging church by wikipedia.
pbs religion & ethics newsweekly cover story the emerging church part 1
pbs religion & ethics newsweekly cover story the emerging church part 2
emerging church resources: a beginner's reference guide by c. wess daniels.
also, see the older posts more on postmodernism for the skinny on postmodernism and here are the infamous myths about the emerging church.
Saturday, September 20, 2008
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Linda, what is YOUR view of the Emergent and Emerging church? I'm just starting to research this stuff and am seeking knowledge.
Thanks,
Ro
hi linda. you should have got my email by now but just in case, the link is emergant 4
peace.
thanks andrew! i'm always amazed how gracious people in the ec are to answer email when i know they get a ton.
ro, are you asking what i think they are or what i think of them? as for what i think they are i think these links describe them well. as for what i think of it i think the ec is a broad movement with diverse views but that God is definitely in it to enable us to reach the emerging generations. this blog is a tiny part of that movement. for any part(s) i disagree with i just eat the meat and spit out the bones. more later. :)
So, what do you make of all these categorizations? Do they work for you? Where do you see yourself in them? Or do they miss the mark?
hi matt. i think they are helpful descriptors to understand what is happening right now in this broad movement. i don't think it matters too much what we call this movement even as some are dropping the "emerging church" moniker just this week. i see a fluidity between the categorizations, so i don't think they need to be too firmly delineated. i probably have a foot in all of them as i tend to see the big picture and see a need for a holistic, balanced christianity. thanks for asking.
It's interesting "watching" the whole thing dropped by publishing houses, since I've never actually shaken hands with an Emergent Church member yet participated from '04 to '07 in one of the flagship digital iterations of it (at least according to popular accounts of it I've seen), the Ooze message boards.
I do know that some folks, including Ooze old-timer Mike Clawson, seems to be holding strong on what he calls the "theological openness" that EC represents. I tend to be with him on that front, largely because I think that the best idea generally wins out over time (sometimes generations, but that's time too). I think that the touchdown dances on the parts of those waiting for the demise of EC are premature, unless publishing houses do indeed rule the world.
hi nate. it sure would be interesting to know more about the publishing house(s) dropping the emerging niche. no one has mentioned this supposed publishing house nor the people who made that decision. it is all rather shrouded in mystery as far as i can tell. sounds rather gnostic to me. ;)
i'm also a bit confused as to whether or not people are saying the movement is dying or just the term. i'm guessing the naysayers will start proclaiming the movement is dying just because they want it to be so. :D
whatever we call it i'm sticking with it. i don't see any going back up the rabbit hole. :)
From what I've read (and that's not much), folks are dropping the label for many of the reasons they adopted it: they don't want to be the targets of heretic detectors. At first, by calling themselves emerging rather than adopting existing conservative/liberal or fundamentalist/modernist labels, folks seem to have been trying to steer away from unnecessary fights with people who (especially in the blog age) get their kicks from fighting anyone who swerves.
As far as the publishing houses go, I don't have the list at my fingertips at the moment, but I had read of named companies making actual managerial decisions to drop the label from their upcoming books. My hope is that somebody can link to that piece. Of course, the leap from that fact to the "death of the movement" is terribly sloppy thinking, but the reason I still have a job is that there's still terribly sloppy thinking in the world.
Wow! What a list!
nate said:
As far as the publishing houses go, I don't have the list at my fingertips at the moment, but I had read of named companies making actual managerial decisions to drop the label from their upcoming books. My hope is that somebody can link to that piece. Of course, the leap from that fact to the "death of the movement" is terribly sloppy thinking, but the reason I still have a job is that there's still terribly sloppy thinking in the world.
ahh, here is the article by publishers weekly about it: emergent and beyond. it seems publishers are dropping the category emerging church because everyone wants to claim to be emergent just to sell books and it's become a meaningless term. funny, how those in the emerging conversation who are dropping the term are doing so because they tire of the heresy hunters as you pointed out.
the article ends by saying:
"In any event, no one is predicting the demise of the category, though terms like emergent may have a shorter life span—perhaps less than 10 years..."
i still wouldn't be surprised if the death of the emerging church movement is heralded throughout the kingdom, so i think your job is safe nate. ;)
Well, linda, as long as sloppy thinking is the norm, the bar is low for folks who want to teach people to think more clearly. :)
Thank God for job security...heaven forbid we rock the boat!?!
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